PS-28: A Meeting + Update

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STROAT WIND TURBINE MEETING 19:30hrs. Friday 19-Jun-2015 + Update.


re: Hanley Farm Giant Wind Turbine Planning Application PO365/15/FUL – standing 3 times the height of the tallest tree in The Forest of Dean & 100 feet higher than Gloucester Cathedral – an application to industrialise the AoONB ajoining the SSI unshielded from standing out in the landscape with the risk of acting as yet another, but the most notable, moving distraction ajoining THE most dangerous road in Europe.

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19:30hrs. Friday 19-Jun-2015 – sorry about the short notice!
You may not have seen these to scale photographs of this industrial structure which are on the web site and would clearly damage our community, putting at risk the lives of drivers on the notoriously dangerous A48, where sadly fatalities are commonplace – a fact that is likely to be exacerbated by such a huge moving structure so close to such a busy road – not even taking into consideration ther added danger of several 100 large vehicle movements during its construction and the heavy haulage service equipment which will be required over time!

01. Arrow Indicates Wind Turbine to Scale
02. Wind Turbine to Scale from Philpots Court Farm
03. Wind Turbine to Scale from Hanley Lane & Boughspring
04. Wind Turbine to Scale from Footpath looking North East
05. Wind Turbine to Scale from Footpath above Philpots Court Farm

As a member of the community who would be most damaged by this planning application were it to be foist upon the community – you will be pleased to note that the application was rejected with only one vote, based largely on political dogma rather than planning issues or factual details, in favour by our community council’s planning committee.

Many very varied letters of objection, many with copious detailed facts and a wide variety of pertinent planning issues have been lodged from members of the community, in defence of Tidenham and the beauty and amenity of the area and the Severn Estuary in general rather than the parochial NIMBYism.
Amongst the many letters of objection are very accurately dealt with by amongst others Robert Hillman, of Philpotts Court – a professional in the field of planning; also a very sound letter on behalf of members of the community by Julia Joseph, also a professional planning consultant; a letter from David Mitchell_Smith a retired Police Inspector, outlining the danger to drivers and transport on the A48 (potentially fatal) for 12 to 15 years, the likely survival period of this installation as shown by the track record of similar installations; & consider the various letters from medical Doctors with concerns at the effect on health for those living near the turbine both from noise, vibration and flicker – particularly those who even the applicants concede will experience noise levels of 35DBs, however they would seem to have failed to note the DB exposure of many who will be effected – as with The Equestrian Centre and other properties just as close or those level with the turbine and blades in the community on Hanley Lane, Tidenham Lane & Rosemary lane who will be on the same level and thus in the air density band of the noise output!
I will refrain from over detailed reiteration of the many well argued and accurately and well presented facts showing the grounds for objection to this application, as I feel sure that not only will the officer concerned make clear the detail of some of these submissions but thus in not labouring the point I feel there is no need to yet again show how febrile is the applicant’s case for this industrialisation of this beautiful rural area.
Were there a genuine interest in alternative energy supply, a ause at which Wind Turbines are notoriously ineffectual, perhaps the applicant would consider placing on every south facing roof of the many matt black barn they own a shiny black solar panel – as at least solar panels do perform with some degree of valid efficacy. I appreciate there may well be less grant income from this more productive electricity generation scheme, however such level of efficacy may concern the applicants as it could well outstrip the capacity of the proposed link and line capacity of the grid at this point, whereas the lesser output of a wind turbine most of the time may make such a connection viable without the added expense (no doubt grant aided) of installing a new grid cable to a suitable sub-station!
It is also worthy of note the inaccuracy of many areas of the application, which have been far more eloquently presented than could I, as with one property where the applicant said ‘some windows will have an oblique view of the installation’, when in fact the property in question has 19 windows directly facing this enormous carbuncle blotting the landscape!
There was also a very poor spread of communication on the entire issue within the community, it is to be hoped that a part of the planning committee will act with forethought and ensure the applicants position a static balloon in situr indicating the true height of the upper blade tips, so that all may be aware of the actual size of this immense turbine, which were it standing in The Wye at Wintour’s Leap view point would out top the cliffs and in its planned site will be higher than Tidenham Memorial Hall and will not only effect the views from various listed buildings but also visible from many of the historic view points in the Forest of Dean that attract so many tourists who bring jobs and wealth to the area.

One should also be minded that at a very recent count of the items of support very very few are other than standard letters seemingly gathered on the internet and drummed up from individuals with little direct interest, including many from far afield and when counted would seem only to represent some 54 households, many from outside of the community and with an undeniable disregard for the community! Seemingly most of the various such letters have been commercially obtained by the applicants or their agents in the interest of tapping into the subsidies in a cynical effort to exploit a now discredited subsidy structure for these economically non-viable structures.

It is to be hoped that our representatives will act with integrity, in the spirit of the law wherein it has been shown and decided that these wind turbines – be they industrial farms with many turbines or small holdings of a single turbine, or as in this case a collective of small holdings with a common ownership interest of the professional agents for the application who have valued their interest in a mere single site at St. Braivels, although it is only 20% effective as being £1/2Million thus seemingly valuing the subsidy income at around £1Million in profitable value even on an basis of 80% failure to perform!
That the Government has clearly stated it will withdraw subsidies from April 2016, it would clearly be an act of gross defiance for the planning authority to assist an applicant to get their plan in ‘under the wire’, particularly as to date there has been absolutely no meaningful public consultation in current terms nor a current comprehensive bat or bird survey – merely an update lacking convincing year round scientific survey data.

It is clear that this application is not seen as in the interest of the community it is the applicant’s aim to foist it upon.
We are now in the latter stages of the application with a site meeting by the FODDC planning committee scheduled for 10:55hrs. 23-Jun-2015.

Although the prefered period for public submissions is officially over it is legally incumbent upon the planning authority to accept submissions up until the date at which the application is heard by the Council Planning Committee. Though I am sure Stephen Colegate, the designated council officer responsible for presenting the report on this application for the elected Councillors to consider, would appreciate it if any late submissions could be sent in as soon as possible, for both his and the planning committees perusal and consideration.
Representation has been made on behalf of a body of us by Sue & Peter Wright expressing our concerns at the fact that Tidenham Parish is somewhat short of ethical and uninvolved representation in this matter, as the applicant Moira Edwards is a new Councillor who is on the planning committee having stood recently for the Council, yet having failed to inform the electorate that she was the applicant in a majoreffort to change the nature of this region by industrialising a very visible and rural part of the Parish. Our second representative Gethyn Davies who is a member of the planning committee and has made it known it is thus his duty to consider the matter only on planning issues thus possibly not representing the interests of the parish, the AoONB, the SSI and the visual amenity of the area nor representing his constituents who will have the noise and flicker effect inflicted on them . Our third representative is Helen Molynew, not only is she a new Councillor but let us not forget she is the Mother of the Council Leader whose nomination was sponsored by the applicant Mrs. Edwards!

We are blandly assured that members of the planning committee are honour bound to prorogue themselves by declaration of interest – however this does nothing to allay our fear that we are not validly represented as a Parish in any meaningfull manner, as is expected of our democracy!

Perhaps this is why there has been no meaningful consultation, why largely misleading photo montages have been accepted from the applicants, why sinage was not present for a substantial period of that required, why the application is being accepted as put forward with outdated reports and why facts would seem to have been misrepresented by the applicant.

It may also explain why the approval of the application fell during the period in which Parliament had been prorogued for the General Election and public attention was diverted and we found ourselves with new and inexper5ienced councillors in situ to represent our community, were they able in the light of their personal interests!

My personal thanks to Mark Harper MP for his personal attention to my letter of concern and objection re planning application PO365/15/FUL, and my thanks for having taken up various of the issues on my behalf with Mr. Peter Williams, Group Manager, Planning and Housing department at the FODDC and his considered response ref: FD111709 01-Jun-2015.

My letter having been a copy of my letter of objection and concern eMailed to Stephen Colegate, which interestingly would not seem to have been published on the FODDC Planning Web Site, unlike others sucvh as the many repetitive standard letters of support for the applicant! I am tempted to speculate why!

To discuss these issues it is my pleasure to pass on to you an invitation to a meeting at the home of Molly & Keith Mayo, at Wibdon Farm, Stroat on the main A48 road on the left if you are approaching from Chepstow.

Should you require any further details please feel free to phone me, if you can not find the answers on the web site at:

I do hope you can attend the discussion hosted by Molly & Keith Mayo at Wibdon Farm 19:30hrs. Friday 19-Jun-2015 – sorry about the short notice!


Greg Lance-Watkins
Phone: 01594 – 528 337 – Calls from withheld numbers are blocked & calls are recorded


We believe the information gathered on this site can act to bring the truth, regarding the dishonesty of the claimed benefits of Wind Turbines (WT) to the front of people’s minds as they are regularly taxed, in a hidden tax, on their energy bills to fund these politically correct and fundamentally all but useless monstrosities.

We have gathered a great deal of information in our efforts to prevent the industrialisation of Stroat and the banks of the Severn Estuary and across the wider area including the Forest of Dean (FoD) as administered by The Forest of Dean District Council (FoDDC), areas of outstanding natural beauty (AoONB), sites of special scientific interest (SSI) & wildlife habitats.

Please help to spread the truth about the Wind Turbine scam and the fundamental flaws and lies of the ‘Warmists’ & self proclaimed ‘Greens’, which are presented as ‘fact’, regarding the anthropogenic influence of mankind on Global Warming and Climate Chance.

Arm yourself with facts to defeat the biggest con of the late 20th and early 21st Century, and do please spread the truth and the URL of this site as widely as you can.

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